Sunday, March 07, 2010

Going out on a limb

If the allegations of Professor Attaran become the topic of conversation for the remainder of the Spring Parliamentary session the Liberals will win a majority government in the next election, regardless of when it occurs.

Very few Canadians will support a government that appears to have been complicit in committing war crimes. Certainly, some of the more ardent Conservatives, who see the Afghan and Iraq wars as some kind of holy crusade will continue to support the Conservatives but anybody who does not believe that will find somewhere else to go on election day. If not to one of the opposition parties then the couch.

I have my doubts about the allegations and I need to see more evidence before I can conclude that the government was complicit in torture, to conclude that the government actually did commit a war crime. So far there are no facts to support these allegations.

However, I have been around politics long enough to know that facts do not count for a hill of beans in politics. You just need to look at past scandals, such as Adscam, to see that in action. If the government is perceived to have committed a war crime they are done.

If these allegations prove to be true then the Conservative Party of Canada will be destroyed. Oh it will resurrect itself as another conservative leaning party, or a couple of different conservative parties but the current incarnation of the Conservative Party will self destruct.

4 Comments:

Blogger wilson said...

So then you think our soldiers carried out 'orders' to deliberately hand over detainees for questioning?

You also know that the 'rendition' Attaran speaks of was long before the Cons won govt...circa 2004

March 07, 2010 1:14 PM  
Blogger Tof KW said...

So then you think our soldiers carried out 'orders' to deliberately hand over detainees for questioning?

wilson, do you actually read anything before you post your crap?

ottlib wrote:
"I have my doubts about the allegations and I need to see more evidence before I can conclude that the government was complicit in torture"

Also, Professor Attaran said JTF2 didn't start handing over 'high target Taliban' over for 'enhanced interrogation' to the Afghans until 2007.

Now go run off to the flogging bories and hail your asshat leader over there you torture-supporting piece of shit.

March 07, 2010 4:02 PM  
Blogger ottlib said...

No wilson I do not but it is interesting that you ask that. Is that going to be the Conservatives' defence against these latest set of allegations?

While I believe that there are many Bushians within the current government who would give such an order I do not believe that the professional diplomats and soldiers on the ground would carry out such orders.

Or at the very least I would have expected these allegations to be leveled by some of these same professionals after the fact.

So, I am not certain what Professor Attaran saw or what he thinks he saw.

What I do know is his allegations take this scandal to a whole new level. If they stay at that level for the remainder of the Spring term the Liberals win a majority government during the next election, regardless of when it happens.

These allegations have the potential to make the detainee issue the Conservatives' Adscam and if that potential is realized there is nothing the Conservatives can do to save themselves.

March 07, 2010 4:35 PM  
Blogger Gayle said...

Well, they could release the documents.

That is, if releasing them will put a stop to this story...

March 07, 2010 5:16 PM  

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